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Shweta

Shweta — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Perfect heading, which explains why BJP lost so badly.

Gaurav

Gaurav — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Aneez

It’s not a question of confidence or overconfidence. What matters is the policy and people find the policies of Congress better than that of the BJP.

Sonu

Sonu — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

BJP lost the focus on it’s agenda and issues half way through the elections.

Aneez

Aneez — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Yes Gaurav, I totally agree with you. I’m not saying Congress won because of high confidence. It definitely won because of its policies. By this article I just wanted to refute certain claims that Congress didn’t expect such an outcome. And my article is fully dedicated for that purpose. :-)

Aneez

Aneez — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Sonu has given a valid point. This was clearly evident on their faces.

Christos

Christos — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

A great Victory of Congress, the politicians but not of the people. People want change of dead the corrupt democratic system and appoint a government which can induce real growth. But, unfortunately they are not allowed to cast Vote as part of big political and media conspiracy. A true victory of Indian people will be the day when 100% of Indian population will cast vote not just 40-50 % of uninformed voters who vote just for money and a pot of liquor.

Aneez

Aneez — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

I gave a star to your comment. :-)

I love such entertaining comments in serious discussions. It helps to ease the brain while progressing with serious debate. Thanks! Guys like you are always welcome. Though they appear off-track n hilarious, it makes the atmosphere light n cheerful. You may come again after a while, with one more of these gems.

I enjoyed that ’pot of liquor’ part. I’m unfortunate, no one offered me even a glass :-(

I wish I were in UK.

Shweta

Shweta — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Advani had the best chance to become PM this time, but being the narrow minded selfish idiot he really is, he made a mess of it. Insulting MMS, defending Varun Gandhi’s remarks and whole host of other controversies led to the inevitable defeat of the BJP/NDA

Aneez

Aneez — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

You forgot those hilarious radio ads! I loved them even more than the songs :-)

ARVIND K.PANDEY

ARVIND K.PANDEY — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@Shweta

..being the narrow minded selfish idiot he really is..”

Mind your language,Shwetaji.

Criticism should be done in proper words.You seem to forget the fact that Advaniji is the head of the major Opposition party in the world’s biggest democracy !!

Anyway, I agree with subtle meaning of your comment that BJP failed to connect with the voters.It’s time for it to be more realistic !!

Shweta

Shweta — Mon, 25 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

You seem to forget the fact that Advaniji is the head of the major Opposition party in the world’s biggest democracy !!

So! How does that matter to me?

Respect is not demanded, its earned!

ARVIND K.PANDEY

ARVIND K.PANDEY — Mon, 25 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@Shweta

Well,the point is that criticism should not be be misplaced.One is least interested in knowing whether given fact matters to you or not.One is also not interested in knowing whether you respect him or not.I am just reminding you that your comments are directed at a person who is not only associated with a high office but also a high profile leader for more than five decades.

He deserves criticism in right words even if you don’t have an iota of respect for him !!

Shweta

Shweta — Tue, 26 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

He is getting what he deserves...and i still don’t care, so don’t waste any more time of both you and me.

Avadhut

Avadhut — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

I congratulate Congress to emerge as winner.Even Congress was not expecting such a victory. You are right BJP has lost because of certain reasons & they will go down further by the time next elections comes. But that is not a great sign for india.

Aneez

Aneez — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

I respect your sentiments and value your comment. However, if you read my article, you will realize that Congress was totally expecting such a victory. Kapil Sibbal gave the perfect figure well before the polls fully ended. :-)

Lets see what ’India’ wants... and whom ’India’ votes in the next elections.

Finally, I see this as the beginning of a good era!!

ARVIND K.PANDEY

ARVIND K.PANDEY — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

”However, if you read my article, you will realize that Congress was totally expecting such a victory. Kapil Sibbal gave the perfect figure well before the polls fully ended. :-)”

...........

”The results are pleasantly surprising, we were not so confident at the beginning but now we are very confident and we will secure a majority,” Congress leader Oscar Fernandez said.”

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They then went into Ms. Gandhi’s residence where senior leaders soon gathered to bask in the “stunning performance.”

Even the most optimistic back-of-the-envelope calculations within the Congress had not given the party the kind of leads – crossing the 200 mark – that were being projected around 4 p.m. “We had not dreamt of such a result in our wildest dreams,” was how one key strategist of the Congress election campaign put it.

Besides the fact that the results belied all expectations – except in Orissa — Congress leaders were particularly pleased with the nationwide presence that the party had been able to register in this election.

(http://www.hindu.com/2009/05/17/stories/2009051759220800.htm)

Aneez

Aneez — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@ Arvind

Can you deny Kapil Sibbal’s statement? If you have any doubt, just follow the hyperlink and check for yourself. :-)

You have quoted someone else’s statement, but you should know that there are always some sort of mixed reaction when you are dealing with an event of such status. As far as I have heard the Congress leaders pre-elections, EVERYONE WAS CONFIDENT ABOUT THE VICTORY!

Moreover, you have not hyperlinked that web address (like you have done in your comment about Navin Jindal). I tried copy/pasting the address in my browser and searching it, but the page is not there.

I hope you have not made up this story. :-)

And... even if you post the proper link again and I see that statement, its not going to make any difference because you cannot deny ANY PART OF MY ARTICLE. Can you? They are facts which I have posted. And each link is working.

Now if you are not happy with it, you can prefer to keep silent, but please... don’t go out of context.

If you want to discuss anything else, or anyone else’s statement, or any others reaction, jot a new post or tell me to do it... we’ll bang our heads there.

Anyway, thanks for your participation.

ARVIND K.PANDEY

ARVIND K.PANDEY — Mon, 25 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@Aneez

http://www.hindu.com/2009/05/17/stories/2009051759220800.htm

I checked the link.It’s working.

” I hope you have not made up this story. :-)”

CERTAINLY NOT.Chor Ki Dhadi Me Tinka...Why did you ask this ? I hope you have not been doing so in all these years !! Anyway, I am not used to silly gestures nor I am interested in making them part of my habit.I have enough facts and bundle of right arguments to defend my viewpoints in a logical manner.

I agree with your observation that there are mixed reaction.The better way to arrive at proper conclusion would be take in account both the versions.You cannot ignore the fact that such a reaction has crime from one of the key strategists of Congress.I have also stated the opinion of q senior congress member.In fact, editorial in all the major dailies have declared the results to be ”surprising ” not only for the common man but also for the Congress leaders.

It’s also a common practice that almost all the leaders make tall claims before the declaration of results.Have there been not times when boastful claims of Congress leaders vanished into thin air after the declaration of results ?

Okay,Mr Sibbal got it right this time.But his opinion can’t be viewed in isolation.That has to be viewed in light of the actualities prevailing within the party and that includes views,opinion,viewpoints and moods of other leaders as well.

Alok Mehta,a senior journalist, said that Congressmen just cannot believe that they have won so many seats in UP as in the electioneering phase the party offices in UP always bore a deserted look.

I have no problem with the ”facts” disclosed in your article but my dear friend they are totally insufficient to frame a conclusive opinion that treats victory of Congress as some sort of ”certainty” !!

ARVIND K.PANDEY

ARVIND K.PANDEY — Mon, 25 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

You cannot ignore the fact that such a reaction has come from one of the key strategists of Congress.

Aneez

Aneez — Mon, 25 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@Arvind

Chor Ki Dhadi Me Tinka...Why did you ask this ? I hope you have not been doing so in all these years !!

I was expecting you to get disturbed, you did get! However, you got a little too much. :-)

The ’Chor Ki Dhadi Me Tinka’ fits on you, who had given a dead link and rushed to re-present it again when questioned; not me, whose writings are always supported by facts and working links. :-)

Anyway, I loved it. Heard this ’chor ki...’ after a very long time. Thanks!

I have no problem with the ”facts” disclosed in your article but my dear friend they are totally insufficient to frame a conclusive opinion that treats victory of Congress as some sort of ”certainty” !!

Who said I wanted to frame a conclusion about anything, my friend??

I just presented my views and expected a debate. And thats what we do here on public forums, don’t we?

Public forums are not a place to form conclusions!!

ARVIND K.PANDEY

ARVIND K.PANDEY — Mon, 25 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@Aneez

Who told you that it’s a dead link?Is the information present in the comment revealed in the link or not?Is the information shared true or not?

Practice what you preach.

Somewhere in the comment you have requested that there should be no out of context remarks.You also stated that there is should be no room for conclusions.But even a very superficial reading of your comments is enough to reveal that it’s you who have more often than not diluted the debates by making unnecessary personal remarks, by drawing vain conclusions.It’s you who not only make out of the context remarks but also more concerned with insignificant and ignorable aspects of the debate.

”I was expecting you to get disturbed, you did get! However, you got a little too much. :-)”

”who had given a dead link and rushed to re-present it again when questioned”

Aren’t some silly conclusions/out-of-context views inherent in above comments ?

Had you moved ahead with information revealed the debate would have taken a qualitative turn but like usual you came up with unnecessary remarks that are quoted above.So it’s crystal clear to all the IB members that why the debates get focused on wrong aspects with your entry !!

”I just presented my views and expected a debate.”

U expect a debate..haha? However,you are very much bothered if the debate stretches as according to you it should end when real facts appear.That will only be done by other debaters!I mean only other debaters other than the writer-especially if I happen to be the writer- have the real side of the story.

Anyway, since there is nothing left to add in the debate,I bid adieu to the debate or it’s bound to turn into endless debate and if it’s you who is debating there is little doubt that it’s going to bore the participants as you have nothing more to add other than your out of context remarks even as you give the impression how conscious you are about the quality of the debate !!

Elias

Elias — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

BJP lost due to:

1. Lack of leadership.

2. RAHUL GANDHI (But I don’t think he is an apt PM YET, its too early to judge!)

Sonu

Sonu — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

BJP was very strong in North India be it Punjab, Haryana,Delhi Himachal, Rajasthan, & U.P. But they have lost almost whole of North except Himachal. That is the biggest setback for them.

Shweta

Shweta — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Not that Manmohan Singh was the reason why Congress won, but it was actually Advani the reason why BJP lost.

Bin

Bin — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

srilanka has destroyed LTTE ,pak is destroying TALIBAN.

and its beginning of fall of R S S .

Aneez

Aneez — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@ Elias

You are true in every sense. I hope Rahul is not thrown in the arena in a hurry by the high command. He will prove a very good leader n PM, but its still time for that to happen!

Aneez

Aneez — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@ Sonu

And this will prove too costly for the BJP in the long run, especially U.P. defeat will prove a pain in BJP’s a*s.

Aneez

Aneez — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@ Shweta

Where do you produce these gems? I mean, you dedicate some special hours to mine these diamonds before showering them in comment boxes?!

Aneez

Aneez — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@ Bin

RSS who?!

I thought RSS was dodo. Anyway, that’ll happen very soon. The cool wave Congress rule will force everyone to wear full pants!!

Aneez

Aneez — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

correction**

”cool wave OF Congress rule”

;-) Its better to make corrections or else I’ll invite some hilarious allegations.

Chandni

Chandni — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

BJP’s campaign was based along the lines of ‘Bhay Ho’. They spoke about why Congress was bad, not why they were good. It isn’t the same thing.

Aneez

Aneez — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Very true. Negative campaigning and ’name calling’ doomed BJP.

Wonda L

Wonda L — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

ANEEZ

Very well written article

BJP should work on Media management.Take professional help to counter biased Media and beat them in their own game.Change of perception about BJP is a must.

Truth has never won any election to win over emotional humans and the better you understand how emotion works the easier it is to fool the masses

People are too busy to work through the huge amount of propaganda to figure out who is the best ,and the politicians know that —so a few lies a smile and voila a winner–take care

Aneez

Aneez — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Thanks a lot for joining in, Wayne. And what you said makes perfect sense.

ARVIND K.PANDEY

ARVIND K.PANDEY — Sat, 23 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

CROREPATI MPs

On the financial background of candidates, NEW, which based its analysis on the affidavits of candidates and nomination papers, said there are 300 crorepati MPs — a huge increase from 154 MPs in the last Lok Sabha. The wealthiest is Namma Nageswara Rao of the TDP from Khammam, with a declared asset of Rs. 173 crore. He is followed by Navin Jindal (Congress) from Kurushetra, Haryana, with declared assets of Rs. 131 crore.

http://www.hindu.com/2009/05/18/stories/2009051860302000.htm

Aneez

Aneez — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@ Arvind

Thanks for the input.

I hope you know Navin Jindal is a blue chip industrialist. :-) And I don’t need to explain that he didn’t become crorepati after joining Congress.

Navin Jindal’s faith in Congress is a big example to show that growth-oriented Industrialists prefer Congress, a growth-oriented party.

Aneez

Aneez — Sun, 24 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Thanks again for the link Arvind. :-)

I found this interesting thing there;

BJP has the maximum number of (newly-elected) MPs with criminal cases — 42 MPs have criminal cases against them; 17 face serious criminal cases.

ARVIND K.PANDEY

ARVIND K.PANDEY — Mon, 25 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@Aneez

Present both the sides of coin.

The same link reveals that :

”The maximum criminal charges are against Congress MP Vitthalbhai Hansrajbhai Radadiya from Gujarat. He has a total of 16 cases, out of which five are of a serious nature.”

” The Congress closely follows with 41 MPs having criminal cases; 12 facing serious charges.”

Milind

Milind — Mon, 25 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Arvind

Why both of you (You and Aneez) are indulging in an endless debate. Both the parties are the representatives of feudal and industrialist class. Ek naagnaath hai to doosra saampnaath. Both will bite the common men.

Aneez

Aneez — Mon, 25 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@ Arvind

Candidates with criminal cases against them-

Lesser crimes;

Congress – 108

BJP – 106

Heinous crimes (such as murder);

Congress – 39

BJP – 40

Millionaire candidates-

Congress – 244

BJP – 165

The above figures (not updated though) reflect in my article above, if you have bothered to spend your precious time reading it.

You can easily see that I didn’t try to hide that Congress was ahead in two of the comparisons. That shows that I always present both sides of the coin. :-)

I hope you will learn something from this comment and start reading the full article before jumping into debates. It seems you just read the header and introduction and form your opinion about any article and its writer.

In reality, its you who present only one side of the coin and turn a blind eye when others try to show you the other side. And that what stretches your debates to enormous lengths. (If you doubt this, go back and browse each and every debate you have entered till date, whether its your own post or others; you stick to your point, with your usual ”hahaha” even when the other debaters have shown you the truth and left the discussion) It’s not a good sign. I hope I’m not offending you, it’s a friendly advice. If you want, you can ask other members of IB, they will tell you how true my words are.

Come on man, be sport.

Aneez

Aneez — Mon, 25 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@ Milind

Hi,

I hope my reply to Arvind explains to you why the debate stretches and bores the participants. :-)

Anyway, I apologize from my side.

ARVIND K.PANDEY

ARVIND K.PANDEY — Mon, 25 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@Aneez

First some bogus conclusions.

”I hope you will learn something from this comment and start reading the full article before jumping into debates. It seems you just read the header and introduction and form your opinion about any article and its writer.”

”if you have bothered to spend your precious time reading it.”

”It seems you just read the header and introduction and form your opinion about any article and its writer.”

”And that what stretches your debates to enormous lengths. (If you doubt this, go back and browse each and every debate you have entered till date, whether its your own post or others; you stick to your point, with your usual ”hahaha” even when the other debaters have shown you the truth and left the discussion)”

”and turn a blind eye when others try to show you the other side.”

—–That’s how you participate in a debate.Then very innocently you ask or rather complain or rather express your concern that look debates have taken a wrong turn.Who are you trying to fool ? Me or the IB members ?

The harsh truth is that you are fooling only yourself with such silly and out-of-context remarks.Ironically, you are the one who is trying all the time on IB to emerge as defender of right attitude and gestures !! Stop faking right values.That’s all.

None of the remark you have made deal with the issue you have raised.

Before I quit the debate let me state that I have never commented without reading the article properly.I cannot claim that I am above normal errors and therefore like all others do make normal human errors and therefore nobody has any right to make vague conclusions.

I insisted on both sides of coin because it’s you who repeated the same set of facts in comment and hailed them as interesting as if you are stating them for the first time.If you can repeat the fact,what prevented you from repeating the other facts stated in the link ?

Now I quit the debate.I know that the writer is absolutely incapable of presenting facts other than making silly personal remarks amid vague conclusions.I have no problem with that but it makes other participants uncomfortable.I am quite aware of the fact that some are victim of deep rooted strange habits and prejudices!!I can tolerate but I know others can’t tolerate wayward comments in the name of debate.

Lastly,I am convinced that Congress was little aware of the outcome of results !!

ARVIND K.PANDEY

ARVIND K.PANDEY — Mon, 25 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@Milind

Only on two occasions a debate become endless or meaningless.If a debate becomes a long one because of some serious points,it’s a good sign.Nobody should complain as that allows the issue to be viewed from all possible angles.

However,if the debate becomes endless because of the insignificant points then it’s better to avoid such debates.

Sorry to you and others that I have to deviate away from the main theme in last two comments but I had no other choice other than an obvious deviation.

Now I quit the debate.

Shweta

Shweta — Tue, 26 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Oh! Thanks for the favor.

ARVIND K.PANDEY

ARVIND K.PANDEY — Tue, 26 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@Shweta

Yes,now you are free to criticize in a mindless manner!!

Aneez

Aneez — Tue, 26 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@ Arvind

Thanks a ton for quitting the debate!!

And... now I am fully aware that you cannot participate in any debate without terming others’ claims as foolish n insensible.

I was so right, you stick to your point even after knowing that others are not interested! :)

And for your information, you just pretend that you are debating, in reality, you are just thrusting your opinion upon others.. by going out of context and writing page long comments when u are unable to answer the question.

In the previous comment box, you have jotted a whole ’adhyahy’ but you avoided the real thing that I asked you :-)

You had accused me of presenting only one side of coin, in response I cited you the figures from my article and proved that I am not one sided....

And what response you gave??

You termed me ’silly’, ’out of context’ and whatever, when you yourself know that ’you’ are out of context here!!

That’s called a pretender. And this is why I don’t like to have discussions with you, because you believe in thrusting your opinion on others as you are not capable of proving your point in a skillful manner.

Give me a single instance where I have posted out of context remark, and I will never participate in any debate!! (I know you will search but you won’t get it)

Moreover, you say,

None of the remark you have made deal with the issue you have raised.

Well, unfortunately, the debate was going in a proper manner..... but you entered and ruined the debate!!!! Participants like you don’t let the debate remain pure. My remarks were in response to your crude and personal and out of context statements!!

Anyway, this translates into a good thing...because you have decided to quit the comment.

A word of advice: Please enter into my debates ONLY IF YOU HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO FOLLOW THE ETHICS. If you want to ruin the debate by showing your dumb and stubborn attitude... and burdening it with your one-sided statements without paying heed to others’ points... and if you don’t feel comfortable when someone proves you wrong... and if you can’t give away your habit of terming participants as ’fool’ and ’stupid’.... THEN STAY AWAY!!!

AS IT IS, YOUR PARTICIPATION DOES NOTHING GOOD FOR ANY DEBATE OR DISCUSSION!

BECAUSE OF YOU, I (and others too) LOSE OTHER GOOD PARTICIPANTS WHO ARE REALLY INTERESTED IN A GOOD TWO-SIDED DISCUSSION.

((YAAAWWWWWNNN)) Man, you really are a bad influence. See, even I have jotted this page long nonsense comment just by looking at your blabberings.

Anyway, hope to see you somewhere.

ARVIND K.PANDEY

ARVIND K.PANDEY — Wed, 27 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@Aneeez

I whole-heatedly accept your ”page long nonsense comment” !!

Good Bye

Aneez

Aneez — Wed, 27 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

@ Arvind

Thanks! I owe it to you!! :-)

G’bye u2 and tc.

Aneez

Aneez — Wed, 27 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

BTW, should I take that for ”whole-heartedly” or you did mean ”whole-heatedly” in all your good sense?

just asking.

ARVIND K.PANDEY

ARVIND K.PANDEY — Wed, 27 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Well, ”whole-heatedly” is a better word than ”whole-heartedly” in the present context !!

Aneez

Aneez — Wed, 27 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Thanks for the clarification, Arvind.

And congratulations!!!!

You just grabbed the 50th comment on my post!!

And for that, you deserve something from me. Wait, lemme think...

(thinking...)

(still thinking)

(still thinking)

(still clueless what would make you happy)

Forget it, there’s nothing in this world that can make you happy and cheerful!!

Just jokin’ okay, I do have something for you.

A beautiful and rare song from Haqeeqat (old), I hope you like it.

Main ye sochkar uske dar se uThaa thaa

ke vo rok legi manaa legi mujhko

havaaoN mein lahraataa aataa thaa daaman

ke daaman pakaDkar biThaa legi mujhko

kadam aise andaaz se uTh rahe the

ke aavaaz dekar bulaa legi mujhko

magar usne rokaa

na usne manaayaa

na daaman hi pakaDaa

na mujhko biThaayaa

na aavaaz hi dii

na vaapas bulaayaa

main aahistaa aahistaa baDhtaa hi aayaa

yahaaN tak ke us se judaa ho gayaa main (2)

judaa ho gayaa main (4)

Have a nice day!!

ARVIND K.PANDEY

ARVIND K.PANDEY — Wed, 27 May 2009 00:00:00 +0000

Presenting a rare song from BR Chopra’s Nikaah (1982).

Singer : Salma Agha

Music : Ravi

Lyrics: Hasan Kamaal

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Dil Ke Armaan Aansuon Mein Beh Gaye

Hum Wafa Karke Bhi Tanha Reh Gaye

Zindagi Ek Pyaas Bankar Reh Gayi

Pyar Ke Kisse Adhoore Reh Gaye

Shayad Unka Aakhri Ho Yeh Sitam

Har Sitam Yeh Sochkar Hum Seh Gaye

Khudko Bhi Humne Mita Daala Magar

Faasle Jo Darmiyaan Thein Reh Gaye

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